Idealizations

In astrology, idealization is often seen by Venus and Neptune in their own way. Venus shows the idealizations we have to experience comfort and pleasure in a physical realm. Neptune is the planet of idealizations that transcends all realms, these idealizations often tied to fantasy and delusion.

A lot of these idealizations stem from the dignities of these planets. With Venus ruling over Taurus and Libra, the idealization will often come from a physical realm (Taurus) and will be harmonious not only to the self, but to others (Libra.) With Neptune traditionally ruling over Sagittarius and Pisces, the idealization will often come from a fascination and need to explore the environment (Sagittarius) and a need to expand the imagination (Pisces.)

if any of these planets are intercepted, there is often a block of grasping or obtaining these ideals. With Venus, there can be a constant feeling of discomfort. With an intercepted Neptune, the native can often feel uninspired. Those with an interception in Aries/Libra will often feel their idealizations are hard to coexist with in regards to others. With a Taurus/Scorpio interception, they often feel their idealizations are hard to gain stability with. Those with a Sagittarius/Gemini interception will often feel that their imaginations are not intellectually sound and therefore not worth pursuing. With a Virgo/Pisces interception will feel that their fantasies are hard to achieve and grasp.

VENUS

“My physical idealizations lie in [House with Venus.] I idealize because I want to be comfortable and satisfied with [House ruled by Taurus.] I also make idealizations because I think through [House ruled by Libra,] I can work well with others.

NEPTUNE

“My fantastical idealizations lie in [House with Neptune.] I fantasize because I want to explore and learn more about [House ruled by Sagittarius.] I also fantasize because I think that through [House ruled by Pisces,] I can be imaginative and creative.”

• 1st House: myself and my self-expression

• 2nd House: my values my sense of security

• 3rd House: my mind and voice

• 4th House: my past and family

• 5th House: my inspirations and hobbies

• 6th House: my everyday life and health

• 7th House: others

• 8th House: my secrets and intimate relationships

• 9th House: my beliefs in the world

• 10th House: my reputation and goals

• 11th House: my friends and community

• 12th House: my subconscious

Example: Venus in the 5th, Taurus ruling the 8th, Libra ruling the 1st - “My physical idealizations lie in my inspirations and hobbies. I idealize because I want to be comfortable and satisfied with my secrets and intimate relationships. I also make idealizations because I think through myself and my self-expression, I can work well with others.

Neptune in the 8th, Sagittarius ruling the 6th, Pisces ruling the 9th House - “My fantastical idealizations lie in my secrets and intimate relationships. I fantasize because I want to explore and learn more about my everyday life and health. I also fantasize because I think that through my beliefs in the world, I can be imaginative and creative.”

Freedom and Escape

Where Sagittarius and Pisces are ruling on your chart can show where you want to explore and escape. Both signs are traditionally ruled by Jupiter, while Pisces is modernly ruled by Neptune. Where Sagittarius falls in your chart can show where you find your freedom. Where Pisces falls in your chart can show where you’d like to escape, in a realm that may not exist or be realistic. Jupiter and Neptune, being the rulers of Sagittarius and Pisces can show why.

If you have an interception in Gemini/Sagittarius in your natal chart, where Sagittarius is intercepted can often give a feeling of being caged. There is a feeling of not having any freedom, or any way to have freedom. Looking to where Jupiter is in your chart can show how and where you can get that freedom. There’s the feeling of, “I don’t know how to escape.” If you have an interception in Virgo/Pisces in your natal chart, where Pisces is intercepted can often give a feeling of being lost. Looking to Neptune can show how and where you can escape. There’s the feeling of, “I don’t know where to escape,” or “I don’t think I can escape at all.”

SAGITTARIUS RULING THE HOUSES + JUPITER IN THE HOUSES

You find freedom through ___ but you can exaggerate to where you ___.

• Sagittarius ruling the 1st: expressing yourself / are self-centered 

• Sagittarius ruling the 2nd: what you value / stubborn

• Sagittarius ruling the 3rd: your thoughts and words / are intellectually arrogant

• Sagittarius ruling the 4th: your family and past / don’t focus on the future

• Sagittarius ruling the 5th: your creativity / find your ideas scattered

• Sagittarius ruling the 6th: the daily motions of life / are inflexible

• Sagittarius ruling the 7th: your interactions with people / forget yourself

• Sagittarius ruling the 8th: intimacy / don’t associate with others

• Sagittarius ruling the 9th: exploring the world / get lost

• Sagittarius ruling the 10th: your goals / forget where you came from

• Sagittarius ruling the 11th: your friends and community / feel dispensable

• Sagittarius ruling the 12th: your subconscious and dreams / can’t find reality

You want to keep your freedom because you’re good at ___.

• Jupiter in the 1st: being yourself

• Jupiter in the 2nd: valuing yourself

• Jupiter in the 3rd: thinking and communicating

• Jupiter in the 4th: staying comfortable and safe

• Jupiter in the 5th: applying your inspirations

• Jupiter in the 6th: going through routines

• Jupiter in the 7th: interacting with others

• Jupiter in the 8th: gaining intimacy with others

• Jupiter in the 9th: exploring and learning

• Jupiter in the 10th: working on your ambitions

• Jupiter in the 11th: helping others

• Jupiter in the 12th: healing others

PISCES RULING THE HOUSES + NEPTUNE IN THE HOUSES

You escape from ___ but you ___.

• Pisces ruling the 1st: yourself / are creative in expressing yourself

• Pisces ruling the 2nd: your values / are unique in what you value

• Pisces ruling the 3rd: your thoughts / are inspiring with your thoughts

• Pisces ruling the 4th: your past / are strong from what you’ve dealt with

• Pisces ruling the 5th: your passions / are beautifully imaginative

• Pisces ruling the 6th: your daily routines / are creatively innovative

• Pisces ruling the 7th: people / are kind and compassionate

• Pisces ruling the 8th: your secrets / are empathetic and accepting

• Pisces ruling the 9th: your discoveries / are open-minded

• Pisces ruling the 10th: the world / are aware of the reality around you

• Pisces ruling the 11th: your friends / can still be a good friend to them

• Pisces ruling the 12th: your subconscious / are secretly aware of yourself

You escape because ___ can often be overwhelming for you due to your sensitivity.

• Neptune in the 1st: your self-expression

• Neptune in the 2nd: implementing your values

• Neptune in the 3rd: thinking

• Neptune in the 4th: recalling your memories

• Neptune in the 5th: utilizing your creativity

• Neptune in the 6th: the daily motions of life

• Neptune in the 7th: other people

• Neptune in the 8th: your secrets

• Neptune in the 9th: your discoveries

• Neptune in the 10th: your ambitions

• Neptune in the 11th: your friends

• Neptune in the 12th: your imagination

Neptune in the 4th House

The 4th House represents several things: our past, upbringing, and what keeps us comfortable. The 4th House is in the bottom of the chart, and it often provides a strong starting point and foundation for the native to work upon as the native grows up. Planets in the 4th House show the person investing part of themselves in maintaining this foundation.

Those with Neptune in the 4th may not have a truly correct and tangible idea of what their foundation of life is like. The foundations and values they were built up with can be a lot of things, but at the same time, nothing at all. These foundations and values may have been brought up by their family, or through the native’s past experiences. The native’s family and past are often secretive, yet confusing. With this confusion, a lot of the effects the native has gained from their past and family seeps out without the native consciously knowing.

The past of the native with this placement is hazy. The native may not talk much about their family, past, and upbringing because the native doesn’t know the past clearly. If the native does talk about the past, the native can fabricate stories and lies unconsciously, only noticing after the words have spilled from the mouth. Since the past is unclear, the native may be desperate and put on rose-colored glasses, thinking that an inaccurate view is better than no view at all.

There could be thoughts that a false foundation and past is better than none at all. The self after all can be built and strongly influenced by the foundation of the 4th House. If the native does not have a base, how can the native have a strong sense of self? The native can subconsciously and desperately seek for a past and family to cling onto to maintain a sense of self, even if it doesn’t exist. However, with this lack of existence, having Neptune in the 4th can provide the opportunity for the native to develop a foundation that is truly creative and true to themselves.

The family the Neptune in the 4th native may have grown up in was hard to describe. It may be hard for the native to know what was expected of them in the family, since the expectations can go from one extreme to another without the native noticing it. Perhaps the expectations are known, but the native has no idea on how to fulfill those expectations. These expectations depend on the sign ruling the 4th House.

The image of the native’s family can be very hazy for the native. One of the parents may have worked hard to maintain a certain image or ideal, and if the image and ideal wasn’t fulfilled, the parent may have tried to cover up that fact by putting on rose-colored lenses. Perhaps the native saw their past and family through rose-colored lenses. After all, secrets were never told, and a beautiful image may have been strongly maintained for the sake of tangible existence.

The arts may have been a strong factor in the native’s family. Perhaps one of the native’s parents was artistic, creative, and compassionate. The parent may have been influential in an understated manner or through the undercurrents of the family dynamic. However, one of the parents may have had a strong use of substances. Those with Neptune in the 4th may have had to take care of one of their parents due to the parent being unable to care for the native. One of the parents may have been very secretive and also manipulative, often making a strong tie to the native. There is often a strong tendency of victimization throughout the family.

Those with Neptune in the 4th House may dream of a home, past, or upbringing they never got. Perhaps they know what their past and upbringing looks like. They may dream of a comfort that doesn’t exist, a home that is impossible to realistically implement. Having Neptune in the 4th House can provide a native a strong base to be creative, sacrificial, and loving to others. However, the native can struggle to establish boundaries in other areas of their life, since they were raised in a life with little to no boundaries in the first place.

Oh, "Sweet" Neptune

WHILE NEPTUNE IS A PLANET THAT ENCOURAGES CREATIVITY, NEPTUNE CAN ALSO BE A PLANET THAT CAN CREATE CONFUSION.

Neptune in the 1st: You and others could feel confusion in your ego and identity. First impressions are usually inaccurate.

Neptune in the 2nd: You could struggle finding boundaries with your spending habits. You could struggle knowing your self-worth.

Neptune in the 3rd: You could struggle communicating to others what you want. Your mind can feel like a nebulous fog when you try to concentrate.

Neptune in the 4th: You could be idealistic of your family, creating an illusion that could be harmful. You could find yourself sacrificing for your family.

Neptune in the 5th: You can be quite the artistic individual, but establishing healthy boundaries while dating could be a struggle.

Neptune in the 6th: You could be confused with your work ethic. You either work with unique creativity, or you can slump into a confused laziness.

Neptune in the 7th: Your idea of marriage could be very foggy, and you could give up a lot for your partners. You may not know who your enemies are.

Neptune in the 8th: People could take advantage of your finances, and you can be idealistic of sex. You often want to act out sexual fantasies.

Neptune in the 9th: You could have trouble controlling your beliefs, although you’ll be very spiritual. You struggle with little details required for traveling.

Neptune in the 10th: People could be confused with your public persona. In your career, people could take the credit for your work.

Neptune in the 11th: Who your true friends are will be a struggle for you. You may have friends or organizations taking advantage of your talents.

Neptune in the 12th: You are very spiritual and compassionate, but those characteristics can be hard to reach. You can feel guilt for not helping others.